Friday, 30 January 2009
Wednesday, 28 January 2009
Meeting 28th Jan
Meeting 28th January
Apologies : Liz, Lindy
1. Deadline : Mike reiterated the importance of the deadline. Richard is going to print out a mock up of the book and needs all the finished pages by next Thursday. The pages must be produced in INDESIGN. Could everyone look at the blog for detailed instructions as to how to layout your page? If you are having any problems with this see Richard and we can go through it in the Thursday lesson. The printed pages will be brought to another meeting so we can collectively decide which order to set them for the final book.
2. Title: The title has yet to be finalised and some of us would like to reserve judgement until after the pages have been produced. “Grim Tales“ is the favourite so far as it seems to appeal to a wide range of styles. We searched to see whether it had been used before and it would appear that it was indeed the title of a TV programme featuring Rik Mayell. As this was 20 years ago it was felt that there were no issues with Copywrite and that the idea had originated from within the group.
3. Joe has not been able to find large gold Lettraset letters for the cover. Bess has a good gold pen or we could use the Foil method.
Action:
• Finish pages for next week
• Keep looking at the blog and making as many suggestions for the title as possible.
Apologies : Liz, Lindy
1. Deadline : Mike reiterated the importance of the deadline. Richard is going to print out a mock up of the book and needs all the finished pages by next Thursday. The pages must be produced in INDESIGN. Could everyone look at the blog for detailed instructions as to how to layout your page? If you are having any problems with this see Richard and we can go through it in the Thursday lesson. The printed pages will be brought to another meeting so we can collectively decide which order to set them for the final book.
2. Title: The title has yet to be finalised and some of us would like to reserve judgement until after the pages have been produced. “Grim Tales“ is the favourite so far as it seems to appeal to a wide range of styles. We searched to see whether it had been used before and it would appear that it was indeed the title of a TV programme featuring Rik Mayell. As this was 20 years ago it was felt that there were no issues with Copywrite and that the idea had originated from within the group.
3. Joe has not been able to find large gold Lettraset letters for the cover. Bess has a good gold pen or we could use the Foil method.
Action:
• Finish pages for next week
• Keep looking at the blog and making as many suggestions for the title as possible.
Monday, 26 January 2009
Meeting 28th Jan 09
Hi
Just a quick reminder about Wednesdays meeting at 2pm in CB1.3 as usual. The main focus for this week will be just touching base, to see where everyone is with their pages, bearing in mind that the deadline is just over a week away. Please check the blog for a couple of postings on this subject.
Also have a look at the suggestions for book name and see if there is anything you like. Joe and Lindy how are your ideas for the cover coming along? could you update us on Wednesday, please.
Anyone struggling please let us know in plenty of time.
See you on Wednesday.
Thanks
Mike
Just a quick reminder about Wednesdays meeting at 2pm in CB1.3 as usual. The main focus for this week will be just touching base, to see where everyone is with their pages, bearing in mind that the deadline is just over a week away. Please check the blog for a couple of postings on this subject.
Also have a look at the suggestions for book name and see if there is anything you like. Joe and Lindy how are your ideas for the cover coming along? could you update us on Wednesday, please.
Anyone struggling please let us know in plenty of time.
See you on Wednesday.
Thanks
Mike
Sunday, 25 January 2009
Regarding Mike's Last Post
I do back the points that Mike has made. We really can't have someone working to their own brief, as this is a group project and we do all have to work to the set deadlines. Compromises may be necessary for all of us to make that date. Please remember that when the individual work has been completed, that I do have to edit every one's work and I have to meet the projects deadlines and IF they are not met we could all be struggling to past the module and I don't wish or want to be responsible for that. If I were to fail the module of my own accord that's my problem to deal with, but I don't want the situation to arise were I cause everyone to be marked down or fail. Likewise I don't feel another member's short-sightedness or stubbornness should drag everyone else down with them.
Continuing
Let's just all work together on this and if something is having difficulties, don't try and struggle through it on your own, speak to someone about, there are enough people in the group and I do feel that at least one of could come up with a solution to the problem. To finish that if this were a commission, you would have no choice, you would be given a deadline and you would have to make it. REMEMBER TIME IS MONEY. The aim of the project is about us working efficiently as a team and producing a collaborative product Thanks Rich
Friday, 23 January 2009
Important Note
Hi everyone
I just want to re-iterate the important point, that this is very much a group project and subsequently that we all work together as a team to achieve this.
To this end whilst it is important that you show your story or contribution in its best possible light, this must not over-ride the requirements of the group as a whole.
Working to deadlines is an integral part of this project, and I ask everyone to take a close look at their own work with respect to the deadline and consider what must be done or as the case maybe , not done to ensure that you meet the deadline.
Please remember that just one person working to his or her own agenda, affects the performance of everyone else in the group.
If anyone feels they may struggle, please look at what you can do to address this or speak to myself, Richard or Debbie at the earliest opportunity
Thanks
Mike
I just want to re-iterate the important point, that this is very much a group project and subsequently that we all work together as a team to achieve this.
To this end whilst it is important that you show your story or contribution in its best possible light, this must not over-ride the requirements of the group as a whole.
Working to deadlines is an integral part of this project, and I ask everyone to take a close look at their own work with respect to the deadline and consider what must be done or as the case maybe , not done to ensure that you meet the deadline.
Please remember that just one person working to his or her own agenda, affects the performance of everyone else in the group.
If anyone feels they may struggle, please look at what you can do to address this or speak to myself, Richard or Debbie at the earliest opportunity
Thanks
Mike
Thursday, 22 January 2009
Page Layout Tips
Hi Everyone
Myself and Debbie composed this, hope you find it helpful. I also have printed versions available for everyone and again to reiterate if you are having problems with the layout, PLEASE don't be afraid to ask myself, Mike or Debbie or everyone else for that matter. We are all here to help each. The book is a collective project. The finished result reflects on us all.
Cheers Rich
Myself and Debbie composed this, hope you find it helpful. I also have printed versions available for everyone and again to reiterate if you are having problems with the layout, PLEASE don't be afraid to ask myself, Mike or Debbie or everyone else for that matter. We are all here to help each. The book is a collective project. The finished result reflects on us all.
Cheers Rich
Welcome New member
Kyle Perks is our latest addition to the group.
If you have any questions Kyle, please see Mike, Debbie or Richard
If you have any questions Kyle, please see Mike, Debbie or Richard
Minutes 21 JAN
Group 3
Meeting Wednesday 21/01/09
Apologies: Bess, Ben and Hannah
1. Deadline: The blog has been very successful and there have been some very good and useful suggestions and input to our project. A deadline has been set for the individual pages to be produced. It was stressed that this deadline was a focal point to keep the momentum but if anyone found this deadline to be a challenge or even impossible, keep Debbie informed and communicate any problems or issues. Communication is imperative so that the group is fully up to date and on target for the deadlines that have been set. Richard will provide a printed mock up of the book after 5th feb so that we can all see an example of the final book and make any changes then.
2. Pages: Everyone was asked how many pages each member would need. It was agreed that the book would look better with each person’s work on either 2 or 4 pages. Most agreed to limit the pages to 2 so that those who cannot condense it can have 4 pages.
Rob, Debbie, Lindy and Joe each requested 4 pages.
If anyone else needs 4 pages this must be made known by Thursday 22nd so that the editor can make provision for this. Any changes after this will be difficult to accommodate.
3. Photos: Some of the group need their artwork photographed. Debbie would organise this. This has since been done (Thursday morning). Rachel and Debbie will be in room on Tuesday 27th at 4pm CB1.3 to photograph the work
4. Book cover: This was discussed at length. Two ideas were shown to the group
• A Victoriana style aged- leather book with a simple gold lettering and a simple title. This was popular because it was felt that it would compliment all the different styles rather than fight with it. The downside was that it was felt that it was not interesting enough to stand out from other books and wouldn’t draw a reader to pick it up to read.
• A more eloborate design was shown in the style of “ The book of lost things” cover. This also received a lot of positive feed back.
Since the group embraced both styles, it was a greed that a combination of the 2 styles would work really well. The title could be framed with an eloborate “filigree” style border, similarly it could be included in the contents page. Lindy will work on the Border this week and bring her work next Wednesday. Joe will bring his examples so that we can see the examples sided by side and combined.
Everyone must keep looking at the blog and making suggestions and saying what they like and don’t like. However, everything MUST be qualified with WHY because this isn’t down to individual taste this is about what works best for the book as a whole.
5. Title: The group felt it wasn’t important to decide on the title yet as this can be done when all the pages have been set and the layout completed, but it needs to be decided on very soon after the 5th. It was agreed that the title should be short and simple with a subtitle to explain the title.
6. Extra person: We have been told that there may be an extra person added to the group. We all agreed that if this is the case we will endeavour to keep 2 pages available. If there is an extra person they can have these pages, if not we will add pages that we have created as a collaborated piece of work.
7. Action for next meeting:
• Everyone must bring a mock up of the pages so that we can have an idea of which work looks best place next to which.
• Troubleshoot. Let the group know if you are having any challenges.
• Rachel will do the photography for those who require it. See Rachel to discuss any special requirement, discuss lighting etc…. Rachel will do this on Tuesday 27th at 4pm.
• Find out from Mel or Andy whether the inside covers can be printed on. (THURSDAY) Mike asked Andy and we can print on the inside covers
NOTE: If I've missed anything please let me know
Meeting Wednesday 21/01/09
Apologies: Bess, Ben and Hannah
1. Deadline: The blog has been very successful and there have been some very good and useful suggestions and input to our project. A deadline has been set for the individual pages to be produced. It was stressed that this deadline was a focal point to keep the momentum but if anyone found this deadline to be a challenge or even impossible, keep Debbie informed and communicate any problems or issues. Communication is imperative so that the group is fully up to date and on target for the deadlines that have been set. Richard will provide a printed mock up of the book after 5th feb so that we can all see an example of the final book and make any changes then.
2. Pages: Everyone was asked how many pages each member would need. It was agreed that the book would look better with each person’s work on either 2 or 4 pages. Most agreed to limit the pages to 2 so that those who cannot condense it can have 4 pages.
Rob, Debbie, Lindy and Joe each requested 4 pages.
If anyone else needs 4 pages this must be made known by Thursday 22nd so that the editor can make provision for this. Any changes after this will be difficult to accommodate.
3. Photos: Some of the group need their artwork photographed. Debbie would organise this. This has since been done (Thursday morning). Rachel and Debbie will be in room on Tuesday 27th at 4pm CB1.3 to photograph the work
4. Book cover: This was discussed at length. Two ideas were shown to the group
• A Victoriana style aged- leather book with a simple gold lettering and a simple title. This was popular because it was felt that it would compliment all the different styles rather than fight with it. The downside was that it was felt that it was not interesting enough to stand out from other books and wouldn’t draw a reader to pick it up to read.
• A more eloborate design was shown in the style of “ The book of lost things” cover. This also received a lot of positive feed back.
Since the group embraced both styles, it was a greed that a combination of the 2 styles would work really well. The title could be framed with an eloborate “filigree” style border, similarly it could be included in the contents page. Lindy will work on the Border this week and bring her work next Wednesday. Joe will bring his examples so that we can see the examples sided by side and combined.
Everyone must keep looking at the blog and making suggestions and saying what they like and don’t like. However, everything MUST be qualified with WHY because this isn’t down to individual taste this is about what works best for the book as a whole.
5. Title: The group felt it wasn’t important to decide on the title yet as this can be done when all the pages have been set and the layout completed, but it needs to be decided on very soon after the 5th. It was agreed that the title should be short and simple with a subtitle to explain the title.
6. Extra person: We have been told that there may be an extra person added to the group. We all agreed that if this is the case we will endeavour to keep 2 pages available. If there is an extra person they can have these pages, if not we will add pages that we have created as a collaborated piece of work.
7. Action for next meeting:
• Everyone must bring a mock up of the pages so that we can have an idea of which work looks best place next to which.
• Troubleshoot. Let the group know if you are having any challenges.
• Rachel will do the photography for those who require it. See Rachel to discuss any special requirement, discuss lighting etc…. Rachel will do this on Tuesday 27th at 4pm.
• Find out from Mel or Andy whether the inside covers can be printed on. (THURSDAY) Mike asked Andy and we can print on the inside covers
NOTE: If I've missed anything please let me know
Wednesday, 21 January 2009
Tuesday, 20 January 2009
Just a Suggestion
Maybe the design of the front cover should be put to one side for the moment - Until we have seen the designs of everyone’s pages - Remember the cover has to compliment/enhance the contents of the book - In the real world you would be given a brief to design the cover based on the books contents and really the cover needs to reflect that.
Also at this Wednesday’s meeting (21 Jan) I feel we need a deadline for everyone’s page design to be given to me for editing. At that point it would leave those wishing to create a front cover time to do so, while I concentrate on editing the pages.
Thanks: Rich
Also at this Wednesday’s meeting (21 Jan) I feel we need a deadline for everyone’s page design to be given to me for editing. At that point it would leave those wishing to create a front cover time to do so, while I concentrate on editing the pages.
Thanks: Rich
Meeting 21st Jan
Hi everyone
Just a reminder about the meeting tomorrow at 2pm in CB1.3.
Could everyone make sure that they have at the very least a mock up of the pages they require to go in the book.
By the end of this week we really need to have set in stone how many pages each individual will have and some idea of layout, as Richard will looking at deadlines very soon.
Although not quite so urgent, could we start looking at the names people are suggesting, so we can get a bit of feedback going.
Thanks
mike
Just a reminder about the meeting tomorrow at 2pm in CB1.3.
Could everyone make sure that they have at the very least a mock up of the pages they require to go in the book.
By the end of this week we really need to have set in stone how many pages each individual will have and some idea of layout, as Richard will looking at deadlines very soon.
Although not quite so urgent, could we start looking at the names people are suggesting, so we can get a bit of feedback going.
Thanks
mike
Friday, 16 January 2009
More Titles
Gory Stories
Scary Fairytales
Shiver-full Showcase
Twisted Tales
Warped Writings
Evil Exhibits
Scary Scriptures
Beatly Books
Bloodthirsty Books
Terrible Tales
Wicked Wrongens
The Book of Wrongens
Cautionary Collective/ Collaboration
There's a shed load to keep us pondering!!
Russ
Scary Fairytales
Shiver-full Showcase
Twisted Tales
Warped Writings
Evil Exhibits
Scary Scriptures
Beatly Books
Bloodthirsty Books
Terrible Tales
Wicked Wrongens
The Book of Wrongens
Cautionary Collective/ Collaboration
There's a shed load to keep us pondering!!
Russ
Thursday, 15 January 2009
in celebration of white space
(quote of the module)
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
(Antoine de Saint-Exuper)
I think we should all keep this in mind when designing our spread. I am as guilty as the next man for 'over complicating' design. Let's try and keep it 'clean'.
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
(Antoine de Saint-Exuper)
I think we should all keep this in mind when designing our spread. I am as guilty as the next man for 'over complicating' design. Let's try and keep it 'clean'.
Title ideas and suggestions
Group 3 - Name suggestions
Fairy Tales Of A Gruesome Kind
Not For Kids
Not For Children
Tales From The Dark
The Dark Collection
Dark Tales
Gruesome Tales
Gory Stories
Scary Fairy Tales
A collection Of Dark Fairy Tales
A compilation Of Dark Fairy Tales
Tales Of Misery & Imagination
Dark Fairy-Tales
Gory Stories Of Scary Fairies
Strange But True
Tuesday, 13 January 2009
Title Music
Hope you feel this is more suitable................................Mike
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t9j_4KfoX-Q
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t9j_4KfoX-Q
Sunday, 11 January 2009
Meeting
The first meeting of the group will be at 2pm on Wednesday 14th Jan 09
Anyone who is unable to attend please just let myself, Deborah or Joy know, a list of phone numbers and email addresses will be handed to everyone rather than posting them online.
If anyone has any ideas or examples regarding the book cover and book layout etc please bring them along on Wednesday, its probably a bit short notice to post them on here this week.
Rob has expressed an interest in illustrating the front cover and this seems to have been well received, but we are a group of 15 so if anyone has any objections or would also like to contribute please let us know. We also will need a couple of illustrations for the back cover and someone to take on the type work for the covers, again let us know if you're interested.
Rachel has expressed an interest in getting involved in helping administer the group but was unfortunately out on the day everything was set up. If no-one has any objections, could I suggest that Rachel act as stand -in for myself, Richard and Debbie, this way we have some continuity if any of us are out for whatever reason and we dont spend half our time together trying to decide what was supposed to be going on.
Joy has kindly volunteered to take minutes for each meeting and she will then type them up and make them available to everyone, a good idea for research books.
Dont forget, any ideas for the book are welcomed, so get posting.
Thanks
Mike
Anyone who is unable to attend please just let myself, Deborah or Joy know, a list of phone numbers and email addresses will be handed to everyone rather than posting them online.
If anyone has any ideas or examples regarding the book cover and book layout etc please bring them along on Wednesday, its probably a bit short notice to post them on here this week.
Rob has expressed an interest in illustrating the front cover and this seems to have been well received, but we are a group of 15 so if anyone has any objections or would also like to contribute please let us know. We also will need a couple of illustrations for the back cover and someone to take on the type work for the covers, again let us know if you're interested.
Rachel has expressed an interest in getting involved in helping administer the group but was unfortunately out on the day everything was set up. If no-one has any objections, could I suggest that Rachel act as stand -in for myself, Richard and Debbie, this way we have some continuity if any of us are out for whatever reason and we dont spend half our time together trying to decide what was supposed to be going on.
Joy has kindly volunteered to take minutes for each meeting and she will then type them up and make them available to everyone, a good idea for research books.
Dont forget, any ideas for the book are welcomed, so get posting.
Thanks
Mike
Welcome
Welcome to the new blog for Group 3 Graphic Design & Illustration.
This blog is designed to be used by the whole group to post ideas, examples, questions or anything at all regarding the production of our Dark Fairy Tales book.
All meeting dates and times will be posted here online, as will anything we all need to see before any meeting.
All deadlines will also be posted, offering an easy to use reference point for everything to do with the project.
This blog is available to everyone in the group so please use it to it's potential, the more info we get on here and the more we check it regularly, the better use we can make of our time during our short get togethers.
Instructions on how to use the blog will be available on Wednesday 14th Jan 09.
Lets make this book something to be proud of.
Thanks
Mike.
This blog is designed to be used by the whole group to post ideas, examples, questions or anything at all regarding the production of our Dark Fairy Tales book.
All meeting dates and times will be posted here online, as will anything we all need to see before any meeting.
All deadlines will also be posted, offering an easy to use reference point for everything to do with the project.
This blog is available to everyone in the group so please use it to it's potential, the more info we get on here and the more we check it regularly, the better use we can make of our time during our short get togethers.
Instructions on how to use the blog will be available on Wednesday 14th Jan 09.
Lets make this book something to be proud of.
Thanks
Mike.
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